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Im a former member of the WWCG , son of the minister Lyle Simons, Vancouver 66 to 69 , Prince George BC 69 to 74 Edmonton 75 to 83
IM now 60 years old and rarely a day goes by without some unpleasant ( i wrestled with which verb ) memory floods in . I contemplated suicide
daily in my teens , if only to pain my parents. I bolted from the church and home at 18 and embraced sex drugs heavy metal , Rebel without a clue
My story mirrors some Ive read from former members I could pen quite a diatribe but my chief reason for writing is to see if former members who
knew me would write me . Am I the only one who sometimes feels broken inside? Am I the only one who cant seem to let it go? I havent spoken
to my parents in 6 years and i feel no loss , only relief . I was beat regularly . Cant say it endeared me to them can I? I dont even want to live in
the same country as them so Ive been in Mexico and the Philippines for 23 years. IM sober 20 years now , alcohol didnt end in very good results.
Im not very focused with this letter as it came as a shock to find this material online . I only recently researched and found about the corruption
incest , theft , lies and hypocrisy of the church. 200 million a year holy fuck , no wonder my dad took that cushy job , just baffle people with
bullshit and bam new car every two years, big house paid for by the church. I had a huge blowout with my dad , I accused him of knowing full well
it was all a con job. I went through all the childhood diseases like measles whooping cough mumps because they wouldnt vaccinate. I asked my
dad how many died on his watch for lack of medical care. I saw widows on 30% tithe to the church , that doesnt seem right . I asked him why he didnt
stop that or say something . I saw people being dipped in a cattle watering trough in our basement . Basement baptism wow. People excommunicated
because they divorced and shit like that. I never planned a future or took university courses or anything in life because I was brainwashed that the end
was near. I didnt fit in in school because of weird clothes weird lunch stuff short hair when all boys had long hair. I didnt fit in in church with the other
kids , they resented the ministers kid. I had no friends anywhere that I felt had my back , kids in church acted cordially when parents were watching,
when they werent I was bullied. I couldnt participate in school sports because of Saturday. Im surprised I didnt step in front of a speeding truck.
Id be grateful if anyone who remembers me who can relate will tell me something they observed or felt at the time.
Sincerly Trent Simons
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Former members that knew me
luckydratsab@toke.com
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11/28/2019
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I am asking for any
(former/present), members that were or
have been suspended from LCG, UCG,
COGWA for some petty offense such as
disagreeing with a ministers opinion or
any other petty thing, to email
me.
-Ray Smith
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Ray
Smith
r.smith13@live.com
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9/13/2017
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Hello! Was a second
generationer from the NYC area, from
'65-2000 with some breaks in between.
Attended SEP from '66-'71, attended AC
Pasadena for 5 days in 1975. Just
wondered if there are any co-survivors
still around and have their brains
intact! Would love to know how you
survived.
-Debbie Stokes
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Attended SEP from
'66-'71
My Email
is:
bbsitr45@aol.com
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7/10/2017
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Hello
everyone,
I am Jon Wakayama. My
wife Norma and I were in the WCG Hawaii
congregation
withJohn
Ouvrier.
I came across his article about the
Hawaii church and it brought back
memories (they were good ones). If
anyone can get a message to John, let
him know that two of his parishioners
from the mid seventies wish him and his
family a fond Aloha from our retirement
home in Utah.
Thanks a bunch,
Carruthers! Hope all continues to go
well.
DB
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Seeking John
Ouvrier
My Email
is:
dunbarwakayama@comcast.net
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7/9/2017
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Hello,
My name is Catherine
Brown Clune. My father passed away in
1975 when I was only 4 years old. My
brother and I are looking to find out
more about him. I have the death
certificate which says accidental. He
died of carbon minoxide poisening in
his car in a wooded location in
Leesburg. I have always felt the
circumstances were odd. I also have the
obituary where it states the Reverend
Bruce Gore was there and that he
attended the Worldwide Church of God in
Macon. I have been researching and
found your site so I thought I would
reach out to you in hopes of learning
your thoughts or maybe you knew my
father or Bruce Gore. There was also
another Reverend by the name of Al
Willis from Leesburg. Please do not
publish my email address. Everything
else would be fine to publish. Thank
you in advance for any
help.
Catherine Brown
Clune
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Bruce Gore from
Macon
Al Willis from
Leesburg
Contact:painfultruth@hushmail.com
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3/27/2013
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Dale
Brown was
indeed the husband of one of my closest
and dearest friends of many years,
Melissa. After I left the church,
shortly before Melissa did, I lost
touch with her; our paths diverged at
that point in time. However, two
years ago I was told that she had died
of cancer but have been unable to
locate Dale in order to learn what
happened. Would you please either
forward this if you have a current
working email address for him, or
publish this email on your site with
the hope that he'll find it one day and
contact me. And yes, please give
him my email address if he asks for it!
Until later then, I thank you again for
such a wonderful website and the good
it has to offer us exitists. We
fled for our lives, and it's my
constant hope that life is what each of
us has found.
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Dale
Brown
My E-mail
is
greenjeans@live.com
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04/08/2010
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APainful
Truth reader
writes,
"We transferred to
the Feast site in Victoria, Canada one
time in the 1980's. (uncertain as to
year). There were protesters from a
Christian group picketing the Feast. We
heard and saw them protesting as we
were going into the Victoria Theatre
for Opening Night. We are curious what
the group was, if anyone has any
information on the protest, or
remembers it. Any assistance/memories
will be gratefully
appreciated!"
PH says:
I forgot to add, I attended this Feast
as well, but could not provide details,
other than what I remember, which isn't
much; I saw the protesters holding up
signs once in between services, and a
protester burst through the doors and
yelled at Gerald Waterhouse that he was
"going to hell". Old Gerry didn't miss
a beat. That's all I remember, and that
one placard I read (before I dismissed
it as demon-inspired) was referencing
some verse in Romans. But I have no
idea who or what was behind the attack,
nor do I recall which year it was. The
reader did not want to submit the
request to the
Painful
Truth themselves,
so I offered to send it in. Just wanted
to make that clear.
Thanks!
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purplehymnal@gmail.com
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3/31/2010
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Dear
friends,
Just by coincidence
I came across the interview Clyde
Thomas had with Charles F. Hunting,
in 1988 on
WKIS.
I have been looking
for Charles F. Hunting for a long
time. He was one of my teachers and a
personal friend. We visited the last
time, I remember, when I was
stationed in Geneva Switzerland.
Maybe he does remember
me.
Unfortunately, I
lost track of Charles Hunting. Now,
my wife and I are spending the winter
in Florida, the summer in
Switzerland. I would like Charles
Hunting to give me a call, if he
desires to do so. Please pass on my
number to him, if you happen to know
his contact
address.
Thank you and best
regards
Andreas C.
Fischer
Tel. 772 595
5122
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Charles F.
Hunting
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1/21/2010
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I read your
website about the church in Fort Worth
and going to the Swing time
center.
I grew up
there going to that same church. Do you
remember the small balcony? The one
that " few" could even dare to walk up
to? Do you Remember " Cookie
Day"?
I remember when
Pastor Geen was there, Pastor Smith,
Pastor Hertzong, and a few
others.
Did by chance
you know any one there with the last
name of " Hart" or "Bradford"?
Does the name Rick Snead ring a
bell? do let me know. These are
some people I do know.. as my former
last name was "Hart". I had it legally
changed a few years
ago.
My best
friend back then was John Hale.. He had
three brothers, two sisters all
attending.
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Robert
Christian
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7/28/2008
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I wondered if you
might be able to put out an info
request on the PT site. I was
just Googling a few names of people I
knew way back when. One of the
names I searched for is Joe/Joseph
Nazarini. Joe and I were dorm
mates in our first year at AC-Pasadena
(1971-72), and became very good
friends. Eventually he married
Denise Branham, but later it was my
understanding that they had
divorced. Several years ago I
found out his at-the-time mailing
address; he was back in his home town
of Youngstown, OH. I sent him a
letter to ask how he was doing, and he
sent a brief reply on a postcard,
promising to write again, but I heard
nothing further from him.
Today when I Googled his name, I got
one or two sites I'd seen before (a
mention of him in an early '80s edition
of Ambassador Report, which is where I
learned that he and Denise were
divorced), but then other very
disturbing things came up, on the
websites of a couple of local media for
the Youngstown area. It seems
that in February 2004, 55-year-old
Joseph P. Nazarini, resident of the
Youngstown suburb of Boardman, stabbed
his wife (interestingly named Denise),
age 52, to death. He stayed with
the body overnight, then called the
police the next day. He pleaded
not guilty due to insanity. As of
sometime last year, his case was still
floundering, partly due to a long
process of acquiring mental health
information about him from different
places, including California. I
don't know whether the trial finally
took place or not.
Obviously I'm wondering if this is the
Joe Nazarini that I knew; and if so,
had he at some point remarried his
ex-wife, or was his second wife
coincidentally named Denise. The
age at the time of the killing seems
right on for both the Joe and Denise
that I knew long ago. So I'm
wondering if there's a way that you can
put up an info request to your
readers. Someone out there might
know of this and could respond; others
might have known Joe and/or Denise, and
would be interested, as I am, to know
if these are the people we knew.
Perhaps someone out there has deeper
research sources than I have (or a
better way of searching), and would dig
for information.
Here are a couple of
sites, one breaking the news of the
stabbing, the second one being about
the very slow pace of getting the case
to trial:
http://archive.wkbn.com/firstnews/history/2004-02-10/600pm/xindex.htm#116NAZARINI
http://www4.vindy.com/content/local_regional/288774210844559.php
September 2,
2009
Hello,Just a note,
for Mr. Francis Penkava, 4/10/08,
to say that Joe Nasarini"s second
wife was indeed named Denise as was his
first!
I myself was shocked
and horrified to hear what happened to
him and his
life.
When I was a child he
baby sat for me, my brother and sister
and I will never forget his
kindness.
One year we went to
Israel together, he was in an
Ambassador Collage group, my dad was
the
leader.
I remember him
holding me on his back as I was too
tired to swim in the Sea of
Galilee. He swam for what seemed
to me to be a very long way, I was 8, I
never felt scared as he reassured me
all the way and never let me
go.
I cared for him very
much, and still do, now that I am
almost 50.
He was a good friend
to our whole family and I am sad his
life has taken the turn that it has
taken.
Kathy
Martin
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Francis
Penkava
(Please notify the
Editor of the Painful Truth to get word
to Mr. Penkava)
Francis
Penkava
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4/10/08
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I would like to
list my name and e-mail for a friend
I met at SEP in Orr in either 90 or
91.
Her name is
Katherine Tekla Goldby, aka Katie
from San Diego (Poway Street, I
think). We had fun, would like
to know what she is up
to.
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My name is Kelly
Carey
(from
maryland)
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7/29/03
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If you were at Lake
Ozark in 1983 for the FOT and met
someone named Linda, I would love to
hear from you. I stayed at the
Howard Johnson hotel and drove a blue
car. We had a great time, until
we had a major
falling out. For some reason I've
been thinking about this constantly
lately. I feel the need to apologize
for my part. I hope we can
talk.
Thank you.
Linda
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c677ab@yahoo.com
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6/30/03
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I am interested in
hearing from anyone who attended AC in
Big Sandy in 1982, 1983 and remembers
me. Also anyone who remembers me or
attended the Washington, DC church from
1966 to 1985, St. Petersburg, FL church
from 1985 1992, Lakeland, FL church
from 1992 1996.
Sherry (Williams)
Cribbs
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scribbs@tampabay.rr.com
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6/30/03
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I
would like to get in touch with members
or ex members of the houston, victoria,
and san antonio tx
churches. 1980-1986
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lowell@livingston.net
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3/19/03
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I am interested in
contacting anyone who was a teen from
the Dayton, Ohio or Indianapolis,
Indiana churches from 1980-1986. Also
anyone who remembers me or wants to
just talk, chat, email or text to have
someone else who understands. If you
are from Tampabay and interested in
being friends contact
me.
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sandebutler@yahoo.com
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7/27/09
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I'd like to hear from
anyone who remembers me from the
Hammond, Indiana or Illinois churches,
or from the Appleton (Neenah),
Wisconsin church I made a lot of
friends at the Wisconsin Dells feasts
over the years and would
like to hear from them. No
religious talk, just looking to find
old friends.
Thanks.
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Chuck Milam
chuck@milams.net
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11/25/02
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I'm looking to
contact anyone that went to the Reno,
Nevada congregation up until
1969. I'm also interested in
anyone that went to the Squaw Valley
F.O.T. during the mid to late
60's.
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I now live in Madera,
Ca.
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9/26/02
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Former members of
Waterloo, Iowa; Cedar Rapids, Iowa;
Iowa City, Iowa; Baltimore, MD;
Washington DC North & South.
Time frame
1972-present.
I'd love to hear
anyone's stories or be referred to
other sites. I'm especially
interested in anything regarding
experiences where the ministers,
members got away with breaking the law
or encouraged breaking the law.
I'm researching information, and who
better to ask than those who suffered
with me?
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Seeking Person - Rachel
Dahms
whirlwindgirl@erols.com
My father was a
deacon and local elder in Iowa and
Maryland.
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9/6/02
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DELETED BY
REQUEST
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DELETED BY
REQUEST
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9/6/02
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Attended ambassador
college 1970 1974. both big sandy and
Pasadena campuses. would like to
communicate with others attending those
years.
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Contact Debbie @e-mail
address:
jsdsks@msn.com
thank you.
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9/6/02
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Bruce Lynde.
Mid 1970,s --Phoenix A.Z.
area
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DAVID
STEINHAGEN
dmsdavid@webtv.net
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8/13/02
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Benjamin R. Franklin,
He was briefly in the Grand Rapids,
Michigan area before returning to
Canada, I believe in British
Columbia.
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Glynn Washington
glynnwashington@yahoo.com
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5/10/02
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I would be interested
in receiving an e-mail from anyone that
may remember a somewhat recalcitrant
former "Port' editor and all-round
unrepentant "scum sucker" who remains
much the same.
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Gerry R.
Ghearing
gghearing@msn.com
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4/1/02
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Anyone interested in
exchanging
emails.
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I'm Jim Baldwin. I was
a captive in the NH/VT circuit.
I was a member from
1967-1992. I was a local church elder
for 16 years.
I am an atheist
now.
jimbo@fmis.net
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3/10/02
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D'etta Wise From NC
was in 3G in SEP min
1987.
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I was "crispy"
(nickname) in
3B.
Contact Chris
at
thebeps@hotmail.com
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2/24/02
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Members and former
members of North, South, West and
East and Geelong Churches in
Melbourne,
Australia.
I miss you
all and hope to hear from you
again.
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2/24/02
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I'd like to hear from
all of my old friends (too numerous to
list) with whom I smoked, drank, and
raised hell, while at SEP, Embarrassing
College, or at AC Press. We were better
than GTA because they never caught
us, and nobody in our
groups ever
ratted!
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Bob
Evans
Ironhorsecowboy1@MSN.com
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11/11/01
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Charles Hunting
or
his son, Chris, and
daughter, Sydney
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ggmnat@netzero.net
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8/22/01
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I am looking for
any former friends who would like
to correspond, whether they are
ex-members, like myself or
members. I especially would like
to reconnect with Gladys Olson
(Harper?) Karen Maguire (nee:
Leverite).
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Manuela Campbell
(Schlief)
manuelac@telusplanet.net
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7/22/01
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Anybody that
remembers me from the Pittsburgh
Church
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Tony
Scarpari
tony531@concentric.net
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7/22/01
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Looking for
a
Cathy
Koontz that I grew up with
from the Lakeland/Tampa Church.
Unsure of her married name
now.
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Rebecca Cummings
(maiden name
Mick)
mailto:bunnygirl43@hotmail.com
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7/22/01
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Nina Overcash
Bradley
Arch
Bradley
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Barbara
Bruce
jackbarb4345@earthlink.net
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6/21/01
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Looking for people
from S.E.P.
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Lee Brandon,
C.S.C.S.
www.LeebrandonInc.com
bleebrandon@msn.com
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5/27/01
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Dale
Hampton
Someone a while back
sent me an E-mail with a phone number
for Dale Hampton, formerly a minister
in the WWCG. I called the number but
got "the machine." I said I would call
back, but, I have lost the phone number
and the person's E-mail I thought I had
stored has
disappeared.
Is there anything you
could do to help
me??
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Gary
Reid
cgreid@attcanada.ca
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5/27/01
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Anyone who went to
SEP camp in Minn. July 8-18, 1989 to
email me. I was in
1G.
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Melanie
TWisner@aol.com
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2/10/01
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I would enjoy talking
to anyone that has left WWCG, but no
religions
talk.
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Judy
Justathunder@aol.com
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1/22/01
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I would like to hear
from anybody who attended Raymond
Cole's remnant wwcg
church in Eugene, Oregon. It's called
the Church of God,
Eternal.
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JPTOMSON@cs.com
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12/25/00
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Looking to get in
touch or be contacted by Daniel J.
Samson
or anyone who may remember
me.
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My name is Randy
Tibbits and I attended the church in NB
Canada.
Email- cardhu@nbnet.nb.ca
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11/26/00
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Rebecca
Karpinec formerly of the Buffalo,
New York church.
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Glynn
Washington
glynnwashington@yahoo.com
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11/26/00
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Jenny Atkinson,
Chris Power,
Anna Maria Zambelli,
Jim Meyers,
Teresa Meisner,
Manya Gustafson
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6/26/00
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I would like to
contact any former members of the
Phoenix, AZ congregation.
My family was in the
Worldwide Church
of
God from
1964-1975.
I remember some of
the people
fondly and would like
to hear from
them.
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Kit Cessna
711 Voorhies Dr.
Baton Rouge, LA
70815
Spincutter@AOL.com
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3/3/00
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x-members , that
remember me.
Long Island , New York area .
1971 to1994
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Dennis
Pelliccia
ospro@webtv.net
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1/11/00
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I would like to
contact the former (or current, I'm not
sure if she's
married)
Autumn
Galloway.
Last I heard she was
in Fremont, Calif. but I have been
unable to find out anything else about
her. I'd like to know what she's doing
now and since I last saw her at
Cleveland East in
1992.
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Tony Castrataro
ajc41@juno.com
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1/9/00
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I'd love to
locate
Mirriah
Cardill who attended in
Arkansas and then in Oklahoma, I
believe, for a
while.
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April and Shane
Dorsey
pacamama@hotmail.com
April and Shane Dorsey
and Adam Crockett are all looking for
her.
Adam attended the Little Rock, AR
church. April and Shane (siblings)
attended the Mountain Home (AR), Tyler
(TX), Sedro Wooley (WA) churches, among
others, over a period of about 18 to 20
years. We're fourth generation (they
have a great grandma, too) Worldwide
Church of Goders and have somehow lived
to tell the
tales.
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11/7/99
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I'd like to talk to
anyone who was a kid, in YOU or Singles
in the following areas at these
approximate times:
Buffalo, NY
1972-1976 (well, there was no YOU yet
and I was
5...)
Deerfield Beach,
FL 1976-1980
Washington,
D.C. 1980-1983
Rochester,
MN 1983-1987
Hammond, IN
1987-1992
(now we're in to the infamous "singles"
groups)
Chicago
North 1987-199
Chicago NW (Arlington
Hts)
1987-199
Austin,
TX 1992-1993
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Marcy
Flicinski-Schoepko
marcyschoepko@prodigy.net
My maiden name is
Flicinski. My dad (Mike
Flicinski) was a songleader then deacon
until he and my mom left in the
mid-'90's. (I thought people might
remember him if not
me!)
Thanks!
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10/31/99
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Anyone
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Dana
messmer@olypen.com
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10/17/99
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Requesting contact
from other former, ex, etc.
members.
There are a lot of
members I'd like to know what has
happened to them, are they still in or
out or what. Some I'd like to start a
dialog with while others can go to
hell.
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Tom
Schear
ccmsinc@kca.net
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10/11/99
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BERTHA BRANDON.
She was wonderful influence on my life
at Big Sandy SEP '86 by her presence as
one of the faculty
members/counselors
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Amber
Bricker-Fink
asf1805@aol.com
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10/4/99
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Michelle Dean,
Aaron Dean's
wife
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Brenda
Denzler
bdenzler@duke.edu
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10/3/99
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